Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 120

03/17/2011 01:00 PM House MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 180 VETERAN DESIGNATION ON DRIVER'S LICENSE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 180(MLV) Out of Committee
*+ HJR 18 CONSIDER DEATH PENALTY FOR NIDAL HASAN TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
         HB 180-VETERAN DESIGNATION ON DRIVER'S LICENSE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:02:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMPSON announced  that  the first  order of  business                                                               
would be HOUSE  BILL NO. 180, "An Act  authorizing the Department                                                               
of Administration to  note a person's status as a  veteran on the                                                               
person's driver's  license and to provide  certain information to                                                               
the Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  moved  to  adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB 180,  Version  27-LS0589\B,  Luckhaupt,                                                               
3/15/11,  as the  working document.   There  being no  objection,                                                               
Version B was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:03:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER,  speaking as  the  prime  sponsor of  HB  180,                                                               
explained  that  the  bill  authorizes  the,  Division  of  Motor                                                               
Vehicles (DMV), Department of Administration,  to note a person's                                                               
status  as  a   veteran  on  their  state   driver's  license  or                                                               
identification card.   The division  would also be  authorized to                                                               
give  the name  and  address  of a  person  receiving a  veteran-                                                               
designated  card  to  the  Department  of  Military  &  Veterans'                                                               
Affairs (DMVA).   This legislation seeks to  help Alaska veterans                                                               
receive more of  the benefits they have earned and  to which they                                                               
are entitled.   In Alaska,  about 60 percent of  businesses offer                                                               
special discounts  and benefits to veterans.   Veteran-designated                                                               
driver's   licenses  and   identification  cards   would  provide                                                               
veterans convenient  proof of their  veteran status in  order for                                                               
them to  more easily  enjoy the full  range of  benefits offered,                                                               
without  having to  carry discharge  documents.   Furthermore, HB
180 authorizes DMV to provide  names and addresses of veterans to                                                               
DMVA in order to better remain in contact with them.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked whether other groups  such as firemen                                                               
and students will want designated licenses.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER indicated no.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:07:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VERDIE BOWEN, Director, Office of  Veteran Affairs, Department of                                                               
Military &  Veterans' Affairs, explained that  there are veterans                                                               
around the state  who are unable to receive a  U.S. Department of                                                               
Veteran Affairs (VA) medical card,  and thus they are required to                                                               
present their discharge documents  in order to receive discounts.                                                               
Because discharge documents are  difficult to decipher, deserving                                                               
veterans are sometimes denied benefits.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:08:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER asked for background information on this issue.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOWEN  relayed that  last  summer  he witnessed  an  elderly                                                               
gentleman using his Report of  Separation (DD Form 214) to obtain                                                               
a  military discount  and, when  asked,  the gentleman  indicated                                                               
that  a veteran  designation  on his  driver's  license would  be                                                               
helpful.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER   asked  for  other  states'   experience  with                                                               
veteran-designation licenses.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOWEN offered  his understanding  that  Oregon and  Arkansas                                                               
have programs  in place, and  that many  people are pleased.   He                                                               
surmised that the  licenses are more easily recognized  than is a                                                               
DD Form 214.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLER   asked  whether  the  bill   specifies  a                                                               
veteran's  service in  a particular  branch of  the military,  or                                                               
just their status as a veteran.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:10:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOWEN indicated  no, because  those  offering discounts  are                                                               
recognizing the veteran.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  pointed out that the  fiscal note indicated                                                               
a one-time expense  of about $100,000, and surmised  there are no                                                               
on-going expenses.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOWEN said correct, and added  that the impact of the bill is                                                               
similar to that of organ donors  who are seeking changes to their                                                               
driver's licenses.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked for  the  source  of the  additional                                                               
revenue  of  $693,000 for  fiscal  year  2012  (FY 12)  that  was                                                               
indicated on the fiscal note.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  explained  that   DOA  estimated  expenses  of                                                               
$96,000  in the  first  year, and  additional  revenues of  about                                                               
$700,000 from issuing duplicate cards  to eligible veterans for a                                                               
fee of $15 each.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:12:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WHITNEY   BREWSTER,  Director,   Division   of  Motor   Vehicles,                                                               
Department of Administration, advised  that the estimated $96,500                                                               
expense to DMV is for the  expansion of its database to include a                                                               
field for  veterans' information and the  transfer of information                                                               
to  DMVA.   The estimated  revenue amount  assumes 75  percent of                                                               
current veterans will seek a  duplicate card, less 20 percent who                                                               
are due for renewal anyway.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked whether this  was a one-time charge to                                                               
the veteran.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BREWSTER explained that the  veteran would be charged $15 for                                                               
a duplicate license with the  veteran designation if it is issued                                                               
prior to the expiration date of  their license.  If they wait for                                                               
renewal, there would be no charge for the veteran designation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:16:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH   FIELDS,  Chair,   Alaska   Veterans  Advisory   Council,                                                               
Department  of   Military  &  Veterans'  Affairs,   informed  the                                                               
committee  Alaska  has  77,000  veterans,  with  about  one-third                                                               
registered.  He predicted that  this legislation would provide an                                                               
incentive to  register and thereby  bring additional  benefits to                                                               
the state and its veterans.   Mr. Fields opined the bill would be                                                               
an effective way to reach and honor veterans.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:18:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON  SIEBLES, Regional  Commander, Military  Order of  the Purple                                                               
Heart, expressed his  full support for the bill  because it gives                                                               
veterans a helping  hand.  In fact, this is  a bridge to services                                                               
that are  available.  He pointed  out that a driver's  license or                                                               
card is easier to carry and more durable than a document.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:19:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY KURPIUS,  Past National Commander, Veterans  of Foreign Wars                                                               
(VFW),  expressed his  full support  of  HB 180,  and added  that                                                               
compiling a  record at DMVA  of all  veterans will mean  that all                                                               
registered veterans  are notified  of legislative  changes within                                                               
the  U. S.  Department of  Veterans  Affairs (VA).   This  method                                                               
would be  more efficient  than efforts  by service  officers, and                                                               
would bring in revenue to the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  asked for the purpose  of the provision                                                               
requiring DMV to  provide the names and addresses  of veterans to                                                               
DMVA.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KURPIUS  advised his experience  as a service officer  for 21                                                               
years was  that is it hard  to relay information to  veterans who                                                               
live in the  Bush.  An atlas on record  would allow every veteran                                                               
to be notified that they may be eligible to file a claim.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:21:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  further explained that the  benefit to veterans                                                               
of having  their name and  address on  record with the  Office of                                                               
Veterans Affairs, DMVA,  is to ensure that they are  aware of the                                                               
benefits due  them.  He  restated that there are  50,000 veterans                                                               
in  Alaska not  in contact  with  the office,  and this  presents                                                               
another opportunity for communication.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:22:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMPSON closed public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN expressed his  surprise at the estimated                                                               
time  allowed to  make this  small change  to driver's  licenses.                                                               
Furthermore,  he  said he  has  a  hard  time believing  that  80                                                               
percent  of  veterans  will come  forward  to  request  duplicate                                                               
licenses, thus the amount of estimated revenue may be inflated.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:24:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  expressed  his  support of  the  bill,  but                                                               
questioned the  language on page  1, line  8, which refers  to "a                                                               
retired  veteran,"  saying  retired   veterans  have  a  military                                                               
identification (ID) card.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMPSON relayed  that he,  as an  honorably discharged                                                               
veteran, does  not know  where his  discharge documents  are, and                                                               
would request a veteran-designated driver's license.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN surmised  the language,  although redundant,                                                               
does not cause any harm.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER acknowledged  that  military  retirees do  have                                                               
access  to  the  card,  but   added  that  many  veterans  served                                                               
honorably, but did not retire from service.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  concluded that  they are a  veteran, whether                                                               
retired or not.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLER   asked  whether   the  design   has  been                                                               
developed yet.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER said no.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER  suggested putting  the designation  on the                                                               
line with  the driver's name, in  order to avoid the  cost of re-                                                               
programming the system.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:27:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN,  observing that the fiscal  note refers                                                               
to  the redesign  of  driver's licenses,  assumed  that the  bill                                                               
includes other  ID cards issued by  DMV or the Division  of State                                                               
Troopers, Department of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  concurred,  pointed  out  that  provision  was                                                               
included in the CS.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:28:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO agreed  with Representative  Austerman that                                                               
the fiscal note designates a lot of money for software work.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  advised the fiscal note  can be changed                                                               
by the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  said he would encourage  DMV to do what  it can                                                               
to reduce the  cost.  In further response, he  suggested that the                                                               
next committee of referral could address this issue.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  indicated this  could be  done by  the House                                                               
State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:30:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN moved  to report the proposed  CS for HB
180, Version  27-LS0589\B, Luckhaupt,  3/15/1l, out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There  being no  objection, CSHB  180(MLV) was  reported                                                               
from  the  House  Special Committee  on  Military  and  Veterans'                                                               
Affairs.                                                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB0180A[1].pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 180
Sponsor Stmt - HB 180.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 180
HB180-DOA-DMV-03-11-11 Fiscal Note.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 180
CS for HB 180.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 180
Explanation of Changes _ HB 180.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 180
HJR018A[1].pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR18 Sponsor Statement 03-12-11.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR18 Supporting Documents-Article Fox AP 11-07-09.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR18 Supporting Documents-Article NY Daily News 11-06-09.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR18 Supporting Documents-Article San Antonio 11-07-09.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR18 Supporting Documents-Article Washington Post 11-06-10.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR 18 2012 ZERO Fiscal Note.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM
HJR 18 ACLU Legal Issues 2011 03 17.pdf HMLV 3/17/2011 1:00:00 PM